With nearly million iphone apps, I still can't find a simple audio vario app, one which can be used as a backup if all else fails or when flying gliders with mechanical varios. Non compensated and based only on GPS altitude, but still better than nothing. Graphic display optional. Any iphone app developers out there? Should be a simple app.

Ramy

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:31:02 AM UTC-5, Ramy wrote:
> With nearly million iphone apps, I still can't find a simple audio vario app, one which can be used as a backup if all else fails or when flying gliders with mechanical varios. Non compensated and based only on GPS altitude, but still better than nothing. Graphic display optional. Any iphone app developers out there? Should be a simple app.
>
> Ramy

make it a pellet variometer display and i might just be tempted to get an iphone

On May 15, 5:07*am, Tony > wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:31:02 AM UTC-5, Ramy wrote:
> > With nearly million iphone apps, I still can't find a simple audio vario app, one which can be used as a backup if all else fails or when flying gliders with mechanical varios. Non compensated and based only on GPS altitude, but still better than nothing. Graphic display optional. Any iphone app developers out there? Should be a simple app.
>
> > Ramy
>
> make it a pellet variometer display and i might just be tempted to get an iphone

@ Ramy - great idea!
@ Tony - LOL!
Not what you were asking for, but I have a Malletec mini audio vario
I've had for many years. Uncompensated, very small. Extremely well
supported by the maker. I've dropped mine and broken it - he repaired
(or replaced) it for free. Ten years later, it just quit working -
fixed for free again. Under $200, though I can't look up the price
right now....

On May 15, 1:31*am, Ramy > wrote:
> With nearly million iphone apps, I still can't find a simple audio vario app, one which can be used as a backup if all else fails or when flying gliders with mechanical varios. Non compensated and based only on GPS altitude, but still better than nothing. Graphic display optional. Any iphone app developers out there? Should be a simple app.
>
> Ramy

This one for android with a trace:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.bfrontier.flex.VarioBeeper&hl=en

Aahh, the benefits of the nicely walled garden for the iSheep.
On my Android phone I run of course XCSoar.
A fully functional flight computer as a backup, not just a vario.
And my Moto Atrix is very readable in sunlight, even better than my
Ipaq310.
If I need to switch to the Atrix early in flight, I just plug it into
my USB outlet for power, to avoid the battery running out after 2-3
hours.
And finally, I like the larger 4' screen size on the Atrix.
3U

On May 15, 11:45*am, Three Uniform > wrote:
> Aahh, the benefits of the nicely walled garden for the iSheep.
> On my Android phone I run of course XCSoar.
> A fully functional flight computer as a backup, not just a vario.
> And my Moto Atrix is very readable in sunlight, even better than my
> Ipaq310.
> If I need to switch to the Atrix early in flight, I just plug it into
> my USB outlet for power, to avoid the battery running out after 2-3
> hours.
> And finally, I like the larger 4' screen size on the Atrix.
> 3U

Smokin' idea! AUDIO* vario for XCSoar!! Max, are you listening?? 6.4
maybe??

*GPS based for those of use with pressureless NMEA sources or internal
GPS only.

So - the question is - has anyone worked out how to connect an Android
device with XCSoar to Condor?

On 2012/05/15 8:45 PM, Three Uniform wrote:
> Aahh, the benefits of the nicely walled garden for the iSheep.
> On my Android phone I run of course XCSoar.
> A fully functional flight computer as a backup, not just a vario.
> And my Moto Atrix is very readable in sunlight, even better than my
> Ipaq310.
> If I need to switch to the Atrix early in flight, I just plug it into
> my USB outlet for power, to avoid the battery running out after 2-3
> hours.
> And finally, I like the larger 4' screen size on the Atrix.
> 3U

--
Bruce Greeff
T59D #1771

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:20:57 PM UTC-5, BruceGreeff wrote:
> So - the question is - has anyone worked out how to connect an Android
> device with XCSoar to Condor?
>
> On 2012/05/15 8:45 PM, Three Uniform wrote:
> > Aahh, the benefits of the nicely walled garden for the iSheep.
> > On my Android phone I run of course XCSoar.
> > A fully functional flight computer as a backup, not just a vario.
> > And my Moto Atrix is very readable in sunlight, even better than my
> > Ipaq310.
> > If I need to switch to the Atrix early in flight, I just plug it into
> > my USB outlet for power, to avoid the battery running out after 2-3
> > hours.
> > And finally, I like the larger 4' screen size on the Atrix.
> > 3U
>
> --
> Bruce Greeff
> T59D #1771

This method works perfectly to connect Condor to XCSoar via Wi-Fi link.
http://forum.condorsoaring.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12538

Robert

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:20:59 AM UTC-7, db_sonic wrote:
> On May 15, 1:31*am, Ramy > wrote:
> > With nearly million iphone apps, I still can't find a simple audio vario app, one which can be used as a backup if all else fails or when flying gliders with mechanical varios. Non compensated and based only on GPS altitude, but still better than nothing. Graphic display optional. Any iphone app developers out there? Should be a simple app.
> >
> > Ramy
>
> This one for android with a trace:
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.bfrontier.flex.VarioBeeper&hl=en

The same app is available for the iphone, but after reading the description it sounds like it is not using GPS altitude but using the camera instead to read the vario needle movement, or something strange like this. Maybe useful for someone who wants to add sound to mechanical vario, but not useful as a backup.

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:45:24 AM UTC-7, Three Uniform wrote:
> Aahh, the benefits of the nicely walled garden for the iSheep.
> On my Android phone I run of course XCSoar.
> A fully functional flight computer as a backup, not just a vario.
> And my Moto Atrix is very readable in sunlight, even better than my
> Ipaq310.
> If I need to switch to the Atrix early in flight, I just plug it into
> my USB outlet for power, to avoid the battery running out after 2-3
> hours.
> And finally, I like the larger 4' screen size on the Atrix.
> 3U

I don't think we are talking about any iphone limitation here. I am also using XCSoar on my Android Dell Streak, but this is not a backup audio vario. By backup I am looking for something else than my current system, in case of total failure (such as dead battery). Or when flying club gliders with no audio vario. The ability to pull out my iphone from my pocket and turn it into an audio vario will be very helpful. And yes, adding audio tone to XCSoar will also be a very nice feature. XCSoar has indeed an option to display a vario (But only in landscape mode from some reason), and adding tone to it will make it more useful.

Ramy

"Tony" > wrote in message
news:18331098.1278.1337083637260.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynff7...
On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:31:02 AM UTC-5, Ramy wrote:
> With nearly million iphone apps, I still can't find a simple audio vario
> app, one which can be used as a backup if all else fails or when flying
> gliders with mechanical varios. Non compensated and based only on GPS
> altitude, but still better than nothing. Graphic display optional. Any
> iphone app developers out there? Should be a simple app.
>
> Ramy

make it a pellet variometer display and i might just be tempted to get an
iphone

_______________________
Awesome comment Tony!

Paul Remde

I really don't understand why popular flight computer display software don't do this. SeeYou Mobile and I assume everything else, knows when I'm circling and can even provide suggestions for thermal centering. Surely when it detects I am circling it could display the current climb rate in a pellet variometer display and once I level out it would switch back to moving map.. This would sort of be the perfect combination of vintage and modern instrumentation, all in one.

Grider Pirate > wrote:
> Smokin' idea! AUDIO* vario for XCSoar!! Max, are you listening?? 6.4
> maybe??

Yes, I'm listening. I started working on that 2 weeks ago, but got
distracted by my Alps flying vacation ...

Here's the ticket: http://www.xcsoar.org/trac/ticket/1576

Subscribe to the ticket to get email updates on this.

On May 16, 12:47*am, Max Kellermann > wrote:
> Grider Pirate > wrote:
> > Smokin' idea! *AUDIO* vario for XCSoar!! *Max, are you listening?? 6.4
> > maybe??
>
> Yes, I'm listening. *I started working on that 2 weeks ago, but got
> distracted by my Alps flying vacation ...
>
> Here's the ticket:http://www.xcsoar.org/trac/ticket/1576
>
> Subscribe to the ticket to get email updates on this.

This is priceless. When I first got a PDA to connect to my Cambridge
302A, all I knew I wanted was something to display my known landable
spots, and indicate which I had in range. I got XCSoar, and it did so
much more useful stuff that it took me a couple years of using it to
think of something I'd like it to do, that it didn't already. Of
course I found out that it was already being developed. Yesterday Ramy
asks about an audio vario (for iPhone), I think about XCSoar (since I
know he uses it too), and of course, Max is already working on it.

I shall try it. Thanks.

On 2012/05/15 10:10 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:20:57 PM UTC-5, BruceGreeff wrote:
>> So - the question is - has anyone worked out how to connect an Android
>> device with XCSoar to Condor?
>>
>> On 2012/05/15 8:45 PM, Three Uniform wrote:
>>> Aahh, the benefits of the nicely walled garden for the iSheep.
>>> On my Android phone I run of course XCSoar.
>>> A fully functional flight computer as a backup, not just a vario.
>>> And my Moto Atrix is very readable in sunlight, even better than my
>>> Ipaq310.
>>> If I need to switch to the Atrix early in flight, I just plug it into
>>> my USB outlet for power, to avoid the battery running out after 2-3
>>> hours.
>>> And finally, I like the larger 4' screen size on the Atrix.
>>> 3U
>>
>> --
>> Bruce Greeff
>> T59D #1771
>
> This method works perfectly to connect Condor to XCSoar via Wi-Fi link.
> http://forum.condorsoaring.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12538
>
> Robert

--
Bruce Greeff
T59D #1771 & Std Cirrus #57